Why Christian-Wicca doesn’t make sense


Christianity and Wicca are both separate, distinct religious beliefs. Within each, there are several different systems of thought and practice, variations on some particulars that give rise to different Traditions [Wicca] or Denominations [Christianity] but at the core of  these faiths there are specific certainties which define those practices and beliefs as Christian or Wiccan. Without these core concepts, the religion lacks definition. When it lacks definition, it can no longer be described as Wicca or Christianity.

Christianity and Wicca are not compatible as joint religions because in order to combine them into one blended faith, the core, what it is that defines the practice as either Christian or Wiccan, would have to be compromised. When that is done, what remains is no longer defined as either Christian or Wiccan, but something else entirely.

Until the core defining beliefs (credo) of the religion are changed, what is followed outside of those beliefs cannot be labeled or defined under that religion.

I am not saying that it is impossible to blend practices of these two religions. This has been done in various ways already and is nothing new. But these religions are defined as Christian OR Pagan, not both.

There are branches of Christianity that actively practice folk magic and have for many years, but they do not define themselves as Christian Wiccans or Christo-Pagans or any other impossible combination. Most of the time, I would venture to say they don’t even realize that they’re practicing magic. I’ve flipped through television channels and have seen preachers calling for handkerchiefs and scraps of cloth to be sent to them so that they can be ‘blessed’. This is the same as crafting a charm or blessing an item for a single purpose that Witches do. It is a magical act, it’s just that they use a Christian/biblical basis for it. The people that practice these things call themselves Christian and acknowledge and include the magical practices as part of their faith, believing that their powers come directly from God.  They practice magic or faith healing, but they don’t call this Witchcraft and therefore, aren’t Christian Wiccans or Christian Witches. These Christians wouldn’t dream of calling themselves Witches, though Wiccans can look at the various practices and recognize striking similarities to our own.

Just as there are Pagan traditions that use some aspects of Christianity in their system but do not necessarily claim to be Wiccan or Christian as part of their practices, utilizing Christian saints or particular angels relevant to the Christian tradition. Vodou, Santeria, and practices of High Magick/Ceremonialism are some of these.

There are Wiccans, myself included, who respect Jesus a great deal and see value in his teachings. My thoughts on Jesus take a more gnostic view. Gnosticism is considered a heretical teaching and is not accepted as Christian canon because it doesn’t fit the credo of Christianity. It is about Christ, as a man, a teacher, and doesn’t focus on the god-man teachings of Christian belief.

Christianity is defined in large part by the Nicene Creed of the early 4th century. This creed establishes what it is to be under the label “Christian”. The opening line of this Creed runs diametrically opposed to the core beliefs of Wicca as do many of the other statements of belief within it.

Words in brackets are from the First Council of Constantinople in 381, a later addition to the Nicene Creed that is still widely accepted by a majority of Christian denominations.

We believe in One God, the Father Almighty, Maker of [Heaven and Earth and] all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father [the only-begotten; that is, of the essence of the Father, God of God], Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father; by whom all things were made.

Who for us men, and our salvation, came down and was incarnate and was made man; he [was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate], suffered
[and was buried] and the third day he rose again [according to the scriptures] and ascended into heaven [and sitteth on the right hand of the father.]

From thence he shall come [again, with glory] to judge the quick and the dead. And in the Holy Ghost [the Lord and Giver of life, who proceedeth from the Father, who with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified, who spake by the prophets.]

These statements run opposite of what Wicca is. Wicca doesn’t teach of a singular male force that created everything in existence. Wicca has no dogmatic creation story as part of its religion, but instead views creation/creator as one-in-the-same without separation, rather like the way a mother gives birth to a child. Most concepts of the creation mythos in Wicca have a much more feminine slant because of this understanding. Most often Wiccans look to science, which provides a detailed understanding of the natural world that Wicca considers sacred, for where life originated and how it evolves.

Wiccan philosophy is centered on views of time and life as cyclical. Christianity’s philosophy is based on linear teachings.

Wicca accepts the concept of reincarnation, though not all traditions use this as part of their practice. Christianity teaches one life, one death, then judgement. Judgement may take various forms, but it’s still an end result.

Jesus isn’t given ‘special attention’ in Wicca as the sole son or incarnation of deity. We are all equally imbued with as much divinity as Jesus was. The thing that separated him from us was that he understood this nature within himself and tried to teach it to others.

The concept of salvation is hinged on a belief in sin, which Wicca does not possess. Jesus dying for the forgiveness of sins is a belief which is central to the Christian faith, and has no place within the teachings of Wicca. Wiccans believe in self-responsibility, not in the principle of someone else being punished or dying for our wrongs and not in the concept of divine forgiveness being needed or granted in order to be at one with deity.

There is no actual equivalent to the Nicene Creed in Wicca, but there are the Principles of Wiccan Belief which are used in much the same way to define what it means to be a Wiccan.

Seventy three Witches founded the Council of American Witches in 1974. In April of that year, at the Spring Witchmeet in Minneapolis, MN, (1974-APR-11 to 14), they adopted the following document. At the time, Wicca and other Neopagan religions were greatly misunderstood in North America. This document helped to set the record straight.

The thirteen statements are necessarily vague. They do not precisely and completely match any one Witchcraft tradition. But they do provide an introduction to the full range of belief systems called “Wicca.”

The Council disbanded later in 1974.

Introduction:
In seeking to be inclusive, we do not wish to open ourselves to the destruction of our group by those on self-serving power trips, or to philosophies and practices contradictory to those principles. In seeking to exclude those whose ways are contradictory to ours, we do not want to deny participation with us to any who are sincerely interested in our knowledge and beliefs, regardless of race, color, sex, age, national or cultural origins, or sexual preference. 1

1. We practice rites to attune ourselves with the natural rhythm of life forces marked by the phases of the Moon and the seasonal Quarters and Cross Quarters.

2. We recognize that our intelligence gives us a unique responsibility towards our environment. We seek to live in harmony with Nature, in ecological balance offering fulfillment to life and consciousness within an evolutionary concept.

3. We acknowledge a depth of power far greater than that apparent to the average person. Because it is far greater than ordinary it is sometimes called “supernatural”, but we see it as lying within that which is naturally potential to all.

4. We conceive of the Creative Power in the universe as manifesting through polarity-as masculine and feminine-and that this same Creative Power lies in all people, and functions through the interaction of the masculine and feminine. We value neither above the other, knowing each to be supportive of the other. We value sex as pleasure, as the symbol and embodiment of life, and as one of the sources of energies used in magickal practice and religious worship. 2

5. We recognize both outer and inner, or psychological, worlds — sometimes known as the Spiritual World, the Collective Unconscious, Inner Planes, etc. — and we see in the interaction of these two dimensions the basis for paranormal phenomena and magickal exercises. We neglect neither dimension for the other, seeing both as necessary for our fulfillment.

6. We do not recognize any authoritarian hierarchy, but do honor those who teach, respect those who share their greater knowledge and wisdom, and acknowledge those who have courageously given of themselves in leadership.

7. We see religion, magick and wisdom-in-living as being united in the way one views the world and lives within it — a world view and philosophy of life which we identify as Witchcraft, the Wiccan Way.

8. Calling oneself “Witch” does not make a Witch — but neither does heredity itself, nor the collecting of titles, degrees and initiations. A Witch seeks to control the forces within her/himself that make life possible in order to live wisely and well without harm to others and in harmony with Nature. 3

9. We believe in the affirmation and fulfillment of life in a continuation of evolution and development of consciousness, that gives meaning to the Universe we know, and our personal role within it.

10. Our only animosity towards Christianity, or toward any other religion or philosophy of life, is to the extent that its institutions have claimed to be “the only way,” and have sought to deny freedom to others and to suppress other ways of religious practice and belief.

11. As American Witches, we are not threatened by debates on the history of the Craft, the origins of various terms, the origins of various aspects of different traditions. We are concerned with our present and our future.

12. We do not accept the concept of absolute evil, nor do we worship any entity known as “Satan” or “the Devil”, as defined by Christian tradition. 4 We do not seek power through the suffering of others, nor do we accept that personal benefit can be derived only by denial to another.

13. We believe that we should seek within Nature that which is contributory to our health and well-being.

Notes & comments:

  1. The word “preference” in the term “sexual preference” is misleading. Homosexuals are sexually attracted only to the members of the same gender.Gay men are attracted only to men, they don’t simply prefer men over women. Lesbians are only attracted to women, they don’t simply prefer women over men. On the other hand, bisexuals are attracted to both men and women; they may have a preferred gender. Except among conservative Christians, the term “sexual preference” is rarely used. The term “sexual orientation” is a more precise term.
  2.  It appears that in some recent copies of this document, the sentence about ritual sex has been omitted, perhaps because of its potential to be misunderstood by the public. Although the practice of ritual sex has a very long history, the concept is very strange and scary to most people.
  3. Left out of the description of this principle is the use of magical powers to actively attempt to help and heal others.
  4. The concept of Satan is found not only within Christianity, but in Islam and some other religious traditions.

A number of Christians have come across the Wiccan Principles of Belief and gone into detail explaining why these concepts aren’t compatible with biblical or Christian teachings, so I don’t need to do that here.

Wicca is NOT a religion of ‘whatever you want it to be’. You are free to personalize your own particular form of spirituality. However, you are not free to label this new creation as ‘Wicca’. This is a false belief touted by people who don’t understand or are ignorant of the Wiccan religion. Lines have to be drawn at some point to say what is not permitted under the title of a religion or else the entire definition of that religion is lost.

Wicca is NOT an umbrella term to be placed willy-nilly on any eclectic brand of religious or philosophical belief. It has its own structure and beliefs, which may vary among different traditions, but there is still the core which is present and unviolable. If these practices and beliefs are not there, then it is not Wicca.

Likewise, there must be a line drawn to exclude what is outside of the definition of Wicca or else the religion itself loses all meaning. For example – rape is not part of Wicca’s definining principles. A rapist cannot say that they are a Wiccan and excuse their actions as a religious practice because there are strictures that say, “No, rape is not part of the Wiccan philosophy.” If unchecked eclecticism is permitted, then anything could be tied into a belief system and that’s not right. The religion would lose meaning, it loses what it is and I believe that is what happens in Christian Wicca.

If the core beliefs of Christianity aren’t present, then the religion or belief being followed is not Christianity.

If the core beliefs of Wicca aren’t present, then the religion or belief being followed isn’t Wicca.

It is impossible to practice two belief systems that are diametrically opposed to one another.

In Christian Wicca, these core beliefs are not present. They cannot be. One can’t believe that there is only one true and right way to believe, that all others are false [Christianity] and believe that all paths are valid, true, and deserve equal respect [Wicca].

One cannot believe that there is holy doctrine presented in scripture form which is the unquestionable, unchangeable, true, and perfect inspired word of the one and only God [Christianity], and believe at the same time that the bible is just another book of mythology and that there is no single holy scripture to be held to and followed and that personal experience and revelation is the true indicator of connection with deity [Wicca].

If a Christian has an experience contrary to what is presented in the bible, then the experience is deemed false and the scripture is held to be true. In Wicca, if a Witch has a spiritual experience that seems to contradict what has been taught through liturgy, mythos, or tradition, then the experience is weighed against the the liturgy, myth, or tradition but is not dismissed out of turn, both are reexamined and reevaluated to come to what is true.

It is my opinion that people who seek to combine elements of Christianity and Wicca are ‘fence-sitting’ and still searching for their heart’s truth. There is nothing wrong with being a seeker, but it is hoped that at some point in one’s life, they at least settle on a path with which to seek or achieve some depth.

I will admit that I lack understanding on where this particular combination of beliefs comes from. I don’t have this belief  and I am happy with where I am in that regard. I think that in large part, there is fear of being wrong or of being relegated to the Christian Hell if they completely embrace Wicca that keeps these fence-sitters from making a full commitment.

If you’re afraid of Hell or that there might be something to this ‘one right way’ stuff, then you don’t belong in the Wiccan religion. You would do better to remain a Christian and come to terms with those beliefs than to torment yourself with such uncertainty.

The words of (one form of) a Wiccan initiation make this point abundantly clear:

The initiator says: It would be better for you to run upon this blade (said while a dagger or sword is held to the initiate’s chest) than to enter this circle with fear in your heart. How do you enter?

The initiate responds: In perfect love and perfect trust.

Essentially, it comes to this: people can believe whatever they want. If you choose to believe in a god, goddess, multiple deities, or no deities, that is your choice. If you believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, more power to you.

A person can hold to different philosophies and beliefs that are part of separate religions, if those philosophies don’t have specific things that conflict or exclude one from the other. Lots of people in Japan are Buddhist AND Shinto and there’s no conflict with that.  However, a person can’t be of two incompatible religions or philosophies at the same time. Something has to give, and that something changes the definition just as there can’t be Rastafarian Muslims,  Hindu Scientologists,  Atheist Catholics, or Christian Wiccans.

You are either a Christian who practices magic, or a Pagan who works with Christian gods, but you aren’t combining the religions — the philosophy and practices followed — themselves because they just don’t blend. The god of Christian tradition, Jehovah/Yahweh, has made it abundantly clear in his scripture that he does not want to be partnered up with any other gods. He wants to be the primary deity, most often interpreted to mean he wants to be the only deity acknowledged. To me, it seems like a slap-in-the-face to stick him into a system he doesn’t want to be involved with and has said he will PUNISH his followers for practicing. Paganism doesn’t place any strictures on including him as we don’t have that sort of philosophy, but Jehovah does. If you choose to practice Witchcraft by using him and pairing him up with some non-Christian form of a goddess, or invoking him during a Pagan ceremony, that’s between you and he. I just don’t think he’d care for it very much, personally.

What you believe is between you and your understanding or concept of God, but definitions and religions are a man-made concept and what you’re choosing to define yourself with just doesn’t cut it. The definition of Christianity may change in the future, but for right now, what defines Christianity as a religion [The Nicene Creed] and what defines Wicca [dual divinity, non-acceptance of the concept of sin/salvation] are incompatible.

Christianity as a whole has begun making concessions and opening their religion up to beliefs that it once declared were wrong. For example, there is now a wider acceptance of women in roles of teacher or clergy than there has been. There is growth happening and this is being fought tooth and nail by fundamentalist Christians who see this as a bad thing, the end of times, the harbinger of doom, etc.

I have trouble seeing how anyone becoming a more compassionate, understanding, caring, and considerate person is a bad thing, but this is how it’s presented among fundamentalist Christians who fear these changes and are trying to keep their membership from embracing these ideals of community and acceptance.

It is the people who are trying to remain Christian while embracing and combining non-Christian practices and beliefs with their Christian ones who are trying to lead the way in showing that this sort of change is happening and that it doesn’t have to be viewed in a negative light.

If you are combining elements of Christianity with elements of Wicca, you aren’t practicing either faith according to its core canon. You can hold these beliefs in your heart, and if that is honestly what you feel drawn to as an expression of your personal experience, that’s your experience. But it’s not Christian Wicca, or Wiccan Christianity, or Christo-Paganism, or whatever wacky title is used. It is something personal and unique that YOU have crafted to express your own individual spirituality. Since it’s so unique, since you’re creating your own religion or philosophy, you should give it its own name. Give it a name worthy of your inspiration that doesn’t combine the names of two religions that already have a structure of beliefs. Don’t call it what it isn’t.

If you don’t want to give your individual spirituality a new name and want tout that your beliefs make it possible for the two religions to exist togeither and be joined, then make these statements as a Christian! not as Christo-Pagan, Christian Wiccan, or some other made-up nonsensical term. Make it known to other members of your faith that you are Christian and you have found a way to accept other principles or beliefs or traditions that aren’t part of Christian canon. Say, “I’m Christian but I believe that God is immanent within creation, not separate from it. I believe that God is both male and female energy. That I am just as much a child of God as Jesus was and I have the power to do miraculous things through what might be considered magic.” Make others of your faith take you seriously and really listen to what you’re saying, because when you say you’re a Christian-Wiccan or Christo-Pagan, you lose credibility (to both sides) and look like a flake who just hasn’t made a commitment to one or the other and that doesn’t benefit anyone.

Or name yourself as a Pagan who works with the Christian “pantheon”. If you enjoy the way that Wicca or some other forms of Paganism are set-up, but want to plug in Mary, Jesus, The Holy Spirit, Angels/Demons, Saints and Disciples, and maybe even Jehovah into the system, fine. That is between you and them. But it isn’t “Christian”,  it is something else. It is Eclectic Paganism with Christian gods.

Best of luck to you if this is your path, it’s not going to be an easy one.

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13 thoughts on “Why Christian-Wicca doesn’t make sense

  1. Hi Juli 🙂 This is so interesting…I guess I must be a “seeker” because I know a few “Christians” (as you know) and I totally do not believe in some of the things they believe. The only Wiccan I know is you, but I trust in your knowledge of everything you say, and some of your beliefs ring very true to what I believe. Therefore I don’t chose either path. I say my prayers to God, be it male or female, I have no clue, and I try to live by the ten commandments. I love reading all of your articles, because to me they make more sense than what my Christian family members tell me of their “truths”. You are awesome ♥

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  2. Thank you, Liz.

    I went back and tried to clarify a couple of things that I think got ‘over-worded’ since I unfortunately have a tendency to do that.

    I also think that what you follow is awesome: A belief in a supreme being that you feel connected to, basic religious laws and rules that you find value in, and an open-mindedness for others to find their own path.

    Some people need names and definitions. Some people don’t.

    You’re one of those who doesn’t seem to need them. 🙂

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  3. Specifically, I added this with my update:

    Likewise, there must be a line drawn to exclude what is outside of the definition of Wicca or else the religion itself loses all meaning. For example – rape is not part of Wicca’s definining principles. A rapist cannot say that they are a Wiccan and excuse their actions as a religious practice because there are strictures that say, “No, rape is not part of the Wiccan philosophy.” If unchecked eclecticism is permitted, then anything could be tied into a belief system and that’s not right. The religion would lose meaning, it loses what it is and I believe that is what happens in Christian Wicca.

    And this:

    A person can hold to different philosophies and beliefs that are part of separate religions, if those philosophies don’t have specific things that conflict or exclude one from the other. Lots of people in Japan are Buddhist AND Shinto and there’s no conflict with that. However, a person can’t be of two incompatible religions or philosophies at the same time. Something has to give, and that something changes the definition just as there can’t be Rastafarian Muslims, Hindu Scientologists, Atheist Catholics, or Christian Wiccans.

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  4. I dont think you really understand Chrsitian Wicca…

    Trinitarian Wicca is the correct name of the tradition often generalized into a practice called Christian Wicca. Trinitarian Wicca is a tradition based on American Wicca, boasting no direct lineage. Trinitarians work exclusively with the Goddess-inclusive Christian Pantheon. This tradition is not eclectic nor is it ChristoPagan because our devotion lies exclusively with the Christian pantheon. Trinitarian practitioners celebrate the Wiccan Way, observing the 8 Sabbats, the 13 Esbats, and upholding the Wiccan Rede.
    For the Trinitarian path, there are no trappings of Patriarchal Christianity. We do not have conflicts with the Bible, because we work directly with the Gods and Goddesses; church dogma does not have a place in our ritual structure. Concepts such as the original sin, salvation, baptism, heaven, hell, and Satan are not conflicting topics for Trinitarians. They have no place in Wicca at all; as Trinitarian Wiccans, we do not differ in this belief. There is nothing fundamental about Christian or Trinitarian Wicca.
    As for Christian Wicca, the term Christian is used as a modifier for the pantheon observed in this particular practice of Wicca, much like the concept of Celtic Wicca. Starting in October of 1999, Christian Wicca began on Yahoo Groups as a working title reflecting the an eclectic practice of American Tradition of Wicca. By 2002, this path developed it’s name, the Trinitarian Tradition. This tradition evolved as a group of Wiccan practitioners focused on a Goddess-inclusive Christian trinity.
    The mere term Christian Wicca upset so many people both Christian and Wiccan, that it actually got in the way of the true meaning of the path. That was never our intent. While the term Christian Wicca was more descriptive, Trinitarian Wicca is far more accurate and far less controversial. However, by the time the book came out – the working term had become popular and it was hard to express the concepts of Trinitarian Wicca without using the term Christian in the definition.

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    1. Hi Daniel,
      Thank you for reading and commenting. I would appreciate in the future that you credit the sources of your references. Your entire comment came from Nancy Chandler Pittman’s website describing Trinitiarian (Christian) Wicca.

      I’m familiar with the concepts of Trinitarian Wicca, but to me, it still fits the description I use in my blog: it’s Paganism practiced with Christian deities. Because Christianity (as a religion) itself is defined by the Nicene Creed, anything that doesn’t fit with that definition is technically not Christianity. That’s why the label of Trinitarian was adopted.

      It was because of this small but significant difference that I didn’t refer to Christian-Wicca as Trinitarian Wicca in this blog. I understand it. I just don’t agree with it.

      My issue is not with people coming to their own beliefs and spirituality. It is using the names and practices of currently established belief systems and mixing them to the point that nothing of the original form remains or mishandling the carefully and lovingly created structures and traditions without respect. My issue is also with people who embrace or create belief systems purely out of a fear of being ‘wrong’. They want to be Wiccan, but are concerned that just in case… they better leave themselves a loophole.

      Personally, I think Gnostic Paganism is a better name for this belief, and I’ve spoken to Nancy several times and explained this to her. But “Wicca” is what is popular and “Wicca” is what seems to remain, whether or not it’s truly accurate.

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  5. True Christianity is Wicca. Wicca means “The Craft of the Wise.” Proverbs 8 in the Old Testament of the Holy Bible teaches of the Birth Mother Goddess Wisdom. Early Judaic Christians, and Solomon believed She was the Consort of Jehovah. Together in marriage They are One God. Her name in Greek is Sophia. This explains, “Let Us make man in Our image.” Jehovah was talking to His Wife Wisdom. She said, “The Lord possessed me BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH.” In Proverbs 8. John 17:24 Christ said, “Father You loved Me BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH.” Sophia says, “Come eat my bread and drink my wine.” In Proverbs 8. Christ is the Goddess Wisdom of Proverbs 8 incarnate in a man.The Point is Wicca is the Craft of the Wise. One CANNOT be WISE without GODDESS WISDOM. http://wiccanpope.com/ teaches more.

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    1. “True Christianity…” That statement is based on individual interpretation — or group interpretation if more than one person is following it. My entire point is that the definition of Christianity is based on acceptance of the Nicene Creed, which you are going against. Now, I’m not a Christian and can’t rightfully speak as one, but if the established creed defines what fits in the label of “Christianity” says it’s not what you’re saying, then who actually has the ‘true Christianity’?

      What you are proposing may be a valid spiritual path, but it is not Christianity, it is not Wicca, and by default because it is neither of these traditions or systems, it is not Christian-Wicca.

      The ‘let us make man in our image’ translation comes from the word “Elohim” in the original Hebrew, which is more accurately translated as “gods” or “pantheon”. It may be that there was a goddess who represented wisdom to the ancient Hebrews — they did adopt a number of Canaanite practices and beliefs. But you’re crossing your philosophies here. I’d like you to show me, accurately, where such information is found or sourced.

      One more thing, “Wicca” means “Witch” — no more, no less. It is found in any reputable dictionary or concordance of Anglo-Saxon language.

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  6. it is through power of belief wicca works i believe it is neccisary studying all all forms of beliefs and energy practices to properly work through a divine source….and to let ourselves flow from this essance..our faith in our higher power what ever it may be keeps us safe and pushing forward through all obsticles….but remain humble ,compassionate and respectful..and being able to accept when things dont make sence but still strive to make sence of it and understand why the belief was ever there in the first place..im searching for the truth and magic is becoming more and more real everyday.and easily accesable…pesonaly i think the bible is a form of white magic…i believe the holy spirit is just all the spirits assuming one face or atleast that is how the religion is set up…its best to keep it simple if you dont want to find yourself lost and unprepared….study energy..all religions are descriptions of it through the human heart..and when things are done out of love its the best protection you can get…some of the dos and donts arent compatable.but who should judge. be free your belief wants you to be..i guess when it comes to the cycle of love and death and infinite light for me were all describing the same thing and all are connected through this..the bible is a good history lesson in magic just saying…its when man came along and tried to control everything is when things lose value…id rather not lable anything …. and snakes are messengers..spirtualy…ive encounterd a few in visions probly when i needed to shed my skin or take in some divine knowlage ..or to let me know im being protected…ive met a few guides along the way. im more into a shamanic way of believing seeing and understanding …..im looking for the source and expressing from this how one can begin to comprehend….then in turn use this for good or just have an impact that promotes growth..if you look between the lines all beliefs stand hand in hand looking twords the same ..stay open and flowing ..and be one..we’re all staring at the looking glass finding whatever reflections fits our truth.stay in light of things and we ourselves will shine…sorry im rambling

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    1. Hi Bo,

      Thanks for reading and taking the time to comment. 🙂

      I agree that people should read and study and try to learn from as many sources as they wish. Knowledge is wonderful and no one should limit themselves.

      But there’s a difference between limiting and focusing. Limiting is bad, focusing is not. I think if people choose just a few or maybe just one thing to focus on when looking for a fulfilling spiritual life, they will achieve more than if they keep searching and searching and never actually commit to a practice.

      I also agree that the bible has a lot of magic in it. I’m not saying that one can’t use the bible for magic, or even perform Christian magic, though most mainstream Christians would disagree. That would make someone a Christian magician, a Christian mystic, or maybe a Gnostic Christian. I’m saying that’s not the same thing as trying to combine two religions that just don’t mix: Christian-Wiccan.

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  7. ive deleted two of my paragraphs so far…cause im haveing a hard time choosing my words.. i agree with you entirely from the expieriences i have had….like the pic at the top of the page for me is unsettleing…alltho i heard a comment one time like take god out of the bible and instead use power source…for some reason the thought astonished the shit out of me almost scared me, and i couldnt figure it out for awile..but then came up with this. take labels away from belief and you’ve got faith and from that faith breeds power….religion is a way of people seperateing eachother…instead i spend my time making connections without too much assumptions ..staying humble and just accepting things the way they are. like there are good resones for differences. without them noone would be who they are..id still say im pretty on the wicca side ……i have a hard time feeling real these days because all this energy…not to mention all the things ive done to find myself connected with it more..some doors cannot be closed once there open ..thats for sure..its best not to over step your bounds..but you can feel freely

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    1. I like the idea of taking the word “God” out and using “Power Source”. Personally, I think “God” isn’t a name, it’s a job description and people can decide for themselves based on personal study and personal experience what they want to call “God”.

      I think religions can also be used to separate people, like you said. I think that is just part of human nature — we instinctively form little groups with people we have things in common with. It’s a survival mechanism, really, and because it’s used to survive, people get defensive over their group and are ready to attack those who aren’t in it.

      I like the idea of people joining together and recognizing that separateness doesn’t have to equal attack/defend mode switching on in our brains. But I also don’t think that the beauty of what makes something separate and unique should be whitewashed to the point of making it unrecognizeable.

      The answer isn’t necessarily in blending Christianity and Wicca into a single religion, cause to me, that’s whitewashing and eroding what makes each of those faiths unique. People should just grow up. 🙂

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